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Beautiful Passier Grand Gilbert dressage saddle. 17.5, but measures slightly bigger. Moderate seat depth and knee block for security without restriction. Nice long flap! Wide tree. This was a well loved saddle, owner is out of horses. This is sound and ready for a long legged rider to enjoy! Sales final on shipped saddles. Please see pictures and measurements and feel free to ask questions. 3 day trial available with in person pickup.